Hi Class, I've added all your email addresses to the SyncSketch project for this term. Let me know if you have not received any notification from SyncSketch. You can upload your work between classes there if you like, and you can also upload your work on Wednesdays so it will be ready when you arrive.
Also: here are the notes for my lecture on Thinking.
Have a great weekend!
-v
A private blog for Victor Navone's "Advanced Animation Critique" class at the Animation Collaborative, Winter 2017 session.
Friday, February 24, 2017
Monday, February 20, 2017
Ken - futher shot development thinking
Victor, and everyone,
Thanks for your notes about further research, I will definitely get into a car and shoot some reference, and look for more acting inspiration. In the meantime I've been thinking about the story further. It seems a little odd to me that this guy would be so aggressively berating his taxi driver, so I'm thinking of modifying it a bit -- here's the story I'm thinking (and a quick layout mockup):
Derek Turnbull is a celebrity - the lead singer of a very popular band that was once a worldwide sensation. That time has passed, and the band has since parted ways - some on to solo careers, some into rehab, and others into public service. His career has passed it's peak, but he is still committed to the idea that he is a very important person. He is touring around the country doing appearances on daytime TV talk shows to promote his most recent solo album "Reflections." His agency, meanwhile, has shifted their priorities towards some fresher, hotter talent, and have therefore been cutting back on the budgets for his tour, much to his anger. He feels that this new album is going to be a smash hit, and is going propel him back into the limelight, it just needs to be properly promoted. He wants the public to view him as the star that he knows he is. He is set to make a live appearance on The View this morning to promote his new album, but the car that is supposed to pick him up at his hotel was over 30 minutes late, and to top it off -- it is nothing more than a yellow taxi cab, not the luxury black limousine that he is used to. They have gone too far this time. In a fit of anger he makes a phone call to the agency to tear someone a new one.... The cab driver listens in, mildly amused by it all.
A bit about the driver -- Joe S has been driving cabs in New York for over 30 years. He's seen it all. He lives in the Bronx, just off the Pelham Parkway, grew up not far from there. He lives a simple life, and has an optimistic outlook. He is generally friendly with his all his clients, always willing to participate in a bit of casual exchange, "nice day, huh, usually not so warm this time of year" but he also knows how to read a person, and can tell when they would rather not chat. He's taken a lot of crap from people over the years, and has developed a thick skin, it's hard to get him upset.
Would love some feedback!
Thanks for your notes about further research, I will definitely get into a car and shoot some reference, and look for more acting inspiration. In the meantime I've been thinking about the story further. It seems a little odd to me that this guy would be so aggressively berating his taxi driver, so I'm thinking of modifying it a bit -- here's the story I'm thinking (and a quick layout mockup):
Derek Turnbull is a celebrity - the lead singer of a very popular band that was once a worldwide sensation. That time has passed, and the band has since parted ways - some on to solo careers, some into rehab, and others into public service. His career has passed it's peak, but he is still committed to the idea that he is a very important person. He is touring around the country doing appearances on daytime TV talk shows to promote his most recent solo album "Reflections." His agency, meanwhile, has shifted their priorities towards some fresher, hotter talent, and have therefore been cutting back on the budgets for his tour, much to his anger. He feels that this new album is going to be a smash hit, and is going propel him back into the limelight, it just needs to be properly promoted. He wants the public to view him as the star that he knows he is. He is set to make a live appearance on The View this morning to promote his new album, but the car that is supposed to pick him up at his hotel was over 30 minutes late, and to top it off -- it is nothing more than a yellow taxi cab, not the luxury black limousine that he is used to. They have gone too far this time. In a fit of anger he makes a phone call to the agency to tear someone a new one.... The cab driver listens in, mildly amused by it all.
A bit about the driver -- Joe S has been driving cabs in New York for over 30 years. He's seen it all. He lives in the Bronx, just off the Pelham Parkway, grew up not far from there. He lives a simple life, and has an optimistic outlook. He is generally friendly with his all his clients, always willing to participate in a bit of casual exchange, "nice day, huh, usually not so warm this time of year" but he also knows how to read a person, and can tell when they would rather not chat. He's taken a lot of crap from people over the years, and has developed a thick skin, it's hard to get him upset.
Would love some feedback!
Fleshing out ideas
Hi all,
So I've been trying to flesh out my shot idea a little more.
I settled on doing the shot where the character will sit down grabbing the chair but have been trying to figure out ways to make it a bit more interesting.
One idea I had was maybe adding some dialogue from someone off screen that he can react/respond to. Below are the dialogue ideas...
1:
Wife off screen: "Listen honey we need to talk..."
Hushand sits down as she says this doesn't look in her direction and responds with:
"*Sigh* fine, what do you wanna talk about?" he responds as if the last thing he wants to do is talk to her, he doesn't look at her until the end of the sentence as he finishes saying about.
This is one i'd have to record, I have a friend with some decent audio equipment i can enlist for this, and in the mean time could record some temp audio.
2:
Wife off screen: "Where have you been?" she asks casually seeming interested but not in a accusing way.
Husband similar to above, sits down as she asks and responds with:
"Just doing stuff, you know" seeming a little vague and defensive, and doesn't look up as he says this,
Wife responds:"No..."
He now looks up in her direction for the first time, like he wasn't expecting her to ask and has a guilty look on on his face. His eyes dart as he tries to think of something to say, scene will end with him stil searching for an answer.
Audio for 2
The framing for the second one might be slightly different, i'm thinking you would see the wife in the foreground, very close, like part of the upper body, shoulder and arm, so you can see that she's their but clearing looking away doing something else and just asking out of curiosity not facing him directly and accusing him of something.
I like both these idea's as they feel like they add more depth to the scene, but I think i'm leaning more towards the second, as I like the idea of trying to get him to look guilty and search for something to say, and feels like I could have a clear change of emotion on his face.. I also have audio for this one, length is about 3-4 seconds, which gives me a bit of time at the end for his reaction and to play with the timing of the pauses in the audio a little.
I had a few other ideas but the audio was a bit too long.
Any thoughts or comments would be awesome.
So I've been trying to flesh out my shot idea a little more.
I settled on doing the shot where the character will sit down grabbing the chair but have been trying to figure out ways to make it a bit more interesting.
One idea I had was maybe adding some dialogue from someone off screen that he can react/respond to. Below are the dialogue ideas...
1:
Wife off screen: "Listen honey we need to talk..."
Hushand sits down as she says this doesn't look in her direction and responds with:
"*Sigh* fine, what do you wanna talk about?" he responds as if the last thing he wants to do is talk to her, he doesn't look at her until the end of the sentence as he finishes saying about.
This is one i'd have to record, I have a friend with some decent audio equipment i can enlist for this, and in the mean time could record some temp audio.
2:
Wife off screen: "Where have you been?" she asks casually seeming interested but not in a accusing way.
Husband similar to above, sits down as she asks and responds with:
"Just doing stuff, you know" seeming a little vague and defensive, and doesn't look up as he says this,
Wife responds:"No..."
He now looks up in her direction for the first time, like he wasn't expecting her to ask and has a guilty look on on his face. His eyes dart as he tries to think of something to say, scene will end with him stil searching for an answer.
Audio for 2
The framing for the second one might be slightly different, i'm thinking you would see the wife in the foreground, very close, like part of the upper body, shoulder and arm, so you can see that she's their but clearing looking away doing something else and just asking out of curiosity not facing him directly and accusing him of something.
I like both these idea's as they feel like they add more depth to the scene, but I think i'm leaning more towards the second, as I like the idea of trying to get him to look guilty and search for something to say, and feels like I could have a clear change of emotion on his face.. I also have audio for this one, length is about 3-4 seconds, which gives me a bit of time at the end for his reaction and to play with the timing of the pauses in the audio a little.
I had a few other ideas but the audio was a bit too long.
Any thoughts or comments would be awesome.
Sunday, February 19, 2017
Ken - Luxury Cars - Layout and Video Reference
Hi everybody,
I shot some video reference of the main character in my scene, and also did some rough layout work.
Anybody have feedback on this?
Thank you,
Ken
Click here to see the video reference
I shot some video reference of the main character in my scene, and also did some rough layout work.
Anybody have feedback on this?
Thank you,
Ken
Click here to see the video reference
Friday, February 17, 2017
Ken's update -- looking for advice
Hi everybody,
I think I've honed in on 3 clips that I'm trying to decide between. This list is ordered in terms of my preference. I would love some advice.
1.) Look like you like me:
A man and woman are standing on the altar at their wedding, he is in the process of placing the ring onto her finger. He is delivering this line "just look like you like me" to her, just before they turn to face the crowd. It's meant to be ironic that they've just gotten married and he is still feeling incredibly insecure about it all. Ideally I would also have a priest/officiant standing there making a confused face, I would keep the animation very simple on him. I like this idea because in spite of how ridiculous it is, I still think there is something genuine in there about how insecure this guy is, which I could work into the acting choices.
2.) Don't do your best, do it right:
This one I'm imagining a father and son. They are at one of those arcade claw machines, or maybe they are at a batting cage. The father is feeding more money into the machine and reprimanding the boy in a ridiculous way. The boy would be sad, but not defeated, as though he is used to dealing with his father's quirky impatient attitude without getting down on himself about it. He is trying to slip in a rebuttal, but his father won't give him the chance. This one has something funny/ridiculous about it, but there is also some honest truth that could come across in the kid's expression, because a lot of people deal with parents who are just slightly insane.
3.) Luxury cars:
I'm thinking of having this character in a non-luxury car that he has just crashed in some ridiculous way (manure truck?) and an officer is standing at the window seemingly writing him a ticket, and he is delivering this line as his excuse for why he crashed this non-luxury car.
Anybody have any opinions on these? I would enjoy animating to any of these, but wondering if they are lacking in depth and sincerity? Are they too ridiculous?
Thanks!
Ken
I think I've honed in on 3 clips that I'm trying to decide between. This list is ordered in terms of my preference. I would love some advice.
1.) Look like you like me:
A man and woman are standing on the altar at their wedding, he is in the process of placing the ring onto her finger. He is delivering this line "just look like you like me" to her, just before they turn to face the crowd. It's meant to be ironic that they've just gotten married and he is still feeling incredibly insecure about it all. Ideally I would also have a priest/officiant standing there making a confused face, I would keep the animation very simple on him. I like this idea because in spite of how ridiculous it is, I still think there is something genuine in there about how insecure this guy is, which I could work into the acting choices.
2.) Don't do your best, do it right:
This one I'm imagining a father and son. They are at one of those arcade claw machines, or maybe they are at a batting cage. The father is feeding more money into the machine and reprimanding the boy in a ridiculous way. The boy would be sad, but not defeated, as though he is used to dealing with his father's quirky impatient attitude without getting down on himself about it. He is trying to slip in a rebuttal, but his father won't give him the chance. This one has something funny/ridiculous about it, but there is also some honest truth that could come across in the kid's expression, because a lot of people deal with parents who are just slightly insane.
3.) Luxury cars:
I'm thinking of having this character in a non-luxury car that he has just crashed in some ridiculous way (manure truck?) and an officer is standing at the window seemingly writing him a ticket, and he is delivering this line as his excuse for why he crashed this non-luxury car.
Anybody have any opinions on these? I would enjoy animating to any of these, but wondering if they are lacking in depth and sincerity? Are they too ridiculous?
Thanks!
Ken
Thursday, February 16, 2017
Notes from last night
Hi Class, here are the notes about Subtext & Phrasing. Also, you should have received an invite email for the SyncSketch project I started. I think you can even upload new work directly to this project. Let me know if you didn't get the invite!
Monday, February 13, 2017
Pantomime Ideas
Hi Victor,
I've come up with rough ideas for my pantomime shot.
Could you take a look, please? I'm not sure if some of my ideas are too complicated.
Could you please describe what really is endowment?
I've come up with rough ideas for my pantomime shot.
Could you take a look, please? I'm not sure if some of my ideas are too complicated.
Could you please describe what really is endowment?
1. A Chef is hosting a cooking program live on TV. He tastes his soup and it is very hot and disgusting but he pretends that it is delicious.
2. A lady in a bar is running to the restroom as she desperately needs to pee but she tears off her skirt because she runs too fast. She has to walk slowly to the restroom without drawing attention.
3. (lost object) A violinist is about to enter the stage to perform her song but she lost her violin bow. She has to quickly search it behind the stage.
4. A football player injures his knee. He walks in the locker room as if he is not hurt and when he put alcohol to wash his wound. He has to try harder to not show that he is weak.
5. An old guy walks to balcony trying to retrieve his precious vase of flowers while the wind is blowing very hard outside.
6. (character contrast) A lady and a guy are drinking a shot of vodka together. When a guy counts to three, they would drink at the same time. The guy drink, the lady sneaky pour her shot away and pretend to have drunk the shot.
6. (character contrast) A lady and a guy are drinking a shot of vodka together. When a guy counts to three, they would drink at the same time. The guy drink, the lady sneaky pour her shot away and pretend to have drunk the shot.
Thank you,
Pun
Shot Advice
Hi Victor,
I'm jumping on the bandwagon :) I'm having a bit of trouble narrowing down ideas if i'm honest. I've got a couple of 2 person dialogue ideas that i have clips for, but they are a bit long, more like 8-9 seconds rather then the 5-7 requested, but i was thinking of trying to add some of the physical condition into the acting. Listed the 2 clips below.
Audio 1
Audio 2
Alternatively I also had an idea for a pantomime acting shot, that was a little personal routine, a simple action, with a little endowment.
My initial plan was to bring in a super basic layout for each of the dialogue scenes, and maybe some reference for the pantomime shot on Wednesday. But if you have a recommendation based on what I have, or if you think I should do something totally different I'd love some feedback.
Here is my reel as is, still has the wrestling on it atm I'm afraid. Demo Reel
Thanks in advance!
Preet
I'm jumping on the bandwagon :) I'm having a bit of trouble narrowing down ideas if i'm honest. I've got a couple of 2 person dialogue ideas that i have clips for, but they are a bit long, more like 8-9 seconds rather then the 5-7 requested, but i was thinking of trying to add some of the physical condition into the acting. Listed the 2 clips below.
Audio 1
Audio 2
Alternatively I also had an idea for a pantomime acting shot, that was a little personal routine, a simple action, with a little endowment.
My initial plan was to bring in a super basic layout for each of the dialogue scenes, and maybe some reference for the pantomime shot on Wednesday. But if you have a recommendation based on what I have, or if you think I should do something totally different I'd love some feedback.
Here is my reel as is, still has the wrestling on it atm I'm afraid. Demo Reel
Thanks in advance!
Preet
Saturday, February 11, 2017
Advice on reel
Hi Victor,
Here's my reel:
vimeo.com/157243107
Could you please advise me on what kind of shot to add to my reel?
Thank you,
Rhea
Requesting advice
Hi Victor,
I would love some advice. Here is a demo reel that you haven't seen which shows all my body mechanics work from Animation Mentor and another dialogue shot that I'm none too pleased with:
https://vimeo.com/178085209
And here is my Anim Collab work reel:
https://vimeo.com/203639368
So, do you have any recommendations for what I should work on that would beef up my reel?
I'm really enjoying doing these smaller exercises, I learn a ton from them but without investing a huge amount of time. But I feel like I don't have any strong dialogue shots on my reel at this point, so maybe I should be focusing on that. What do you think?
Thanks,
Ken
I would love some advice. Here is a demo reel that you haven't seen which shows all my body mechanics work from Animation Mentor and another dialogue shot that I'm none too pleased with:
https://vimeo.com/178085209
And here is my Anim Collab work reel:
https://vimeo.com/203639368
So, do you have any recommendations for what I should work on that would beef up my reel?
I'm really enjoying doing these smaller exercises, I learn a ton from them but without investing a huge amount of time. But I feel like I don't have any strong dialogue shots on my reel at this point, so maybe I should be focusing on that. What do you think?
Thanks,
Ken
Thursday, February 9, 2017
Hey Victor,
Here's the link to my reel:
vimeo.com/200098561
password: 2017reel
Please let me know your thoughts on what type of shot I need.
Thanks!
Ricardo
Here's the link to my reel:
vimeo.com/200098561
password: 2017reel
Please let me know your thoughts on what type of shot I need.
Thanks!
Ricardo
SyncSketch links from 2-8
Rhea
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/177e8c67874d496198f4ac3b25f5ebf8
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/4796b3742f6d481fa30f092b76d9b7ab
Preet
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/5e69802c9ba14749aff41c43d4553aee
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/260b731070f64151be931182a4fecde3
Pun
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/bf1ef49aad1a414aa86e5016b0236840
Al
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/e908c8c88a5249d485b7ddb3c73af41d
Lily
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/81abcee97dab4ea8b462d9d822be83a5
Ken
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/a127928151dd4635a78e99066ca674c5
Ricardo
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/49bf7bbcbb9848e496c2130419bbb74a
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/f6b1a037c86348f3b651c89039141d65
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/177e8c67874d496198f4ac3b25f5ebf8
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/4796b3742f6d481fa30f092b76d9b7ab
Preet
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/5e69802c9ba14749aff41c43d4553aee
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/260b731070f64151be931182a4fecde3
Pun
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/bf1ef49aad1a414aa86e5016b0236840
Al
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/e908c8c88a5249d485b7ddb3c73af41d
Lily
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/81abcee97dab4ea8b462d9d822be83a5
Ken
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/a127928151dd4635a78e99066ca674c5
Ricardo
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/49bf7bbcbb9848e496c2130419bbb74a
http://www.syncsketch.com/playground/f6b1a037c86348f3b651c89039141d65
Monday, February 6, 2017
Expression change - Preet
Hey Victor and everyone, hope everyone had a great weekend.
If anyone has a chance to take a look I would love some feedback on my expression change assignment. I know everyone is busy so if you don't have time no big deal.
Here is my progress so far.
Thanks in advance!
Preet
Sunday, February 5, 2017
My HeadTurn updates (Pun)
Hello Victor,
Please take a look at my head turn
I addressed your notes but the part that he sleeps against the window is tricky and I feel like I broke his neck.
Link: https://syncsketch.com/playground/914e3fb0d9064c808c5b2c626ed0b0bc#145982
Thank you!
Pun
Please take a look at my head turn
I addressed your notes but the part that he sleeps against the window is tricky and I feel like I broke his neck.
Link: https://syncsketch.com/playground/914e3fb0d9064c808c5b2c626ed0b0bc#145982
Thank you!
Pun
Saturday, February 4, 2017
Annie Awards Tonight!
Tonight at 7pm you can watch the 44th Annie Awards streaming live if, like me, you have nothing better to do!
Friday, February 3, 2017
Head Turn Fixes
Hey Victor,
Here's my shot update on syncsketch:
Ricardo Head Turn -SyncSketch
Thanks in advance!
-Ricardo
Here's my shot update on syncsketch:
Ricardo Head Turn -SyncSketch
Thanks in advance!
-Ricardo
Thursday, February 2, 2017
Notes and sketches
Hi Class,
Here are the Cinesync drawovers from last night if you missed them, and here is a link to the notes from the Specificity lecture. Have a good weekend!
-v
Here are the Cinesync drawovers from last night if you missed them, and here is a link to the notes from the Specificity lecture. Have a good weekend!
-v
Wednesday, February 1, 2017
Pixar's Cars presents a dystopian future theory
Hi Everyone,
Looking forward to class tonight. In the meantime, here's a pretty hilarious analysis of the Cars universe which theorizes that Pixar's Cars stories are really about a dystopian future where biological humans have merged with automotive technology to survive ever increasingly dangerous conditions on earth. It would make a pretty amazing Mad Max style animated picture for adults:
http://jalopnik.com/this-disturbing-theory-explains-pixars-cars-1791834045
Looking forward to class tonight. In the meantime, here's a pretty hilarious analysis of the Cars universe which theorizes that Pixar's Cars stories are really about a dystopian future where biological humans have merged with automotive technology to survive ever increasingly dangerous conditions on earth. It would make a pretty amazing Mad Max style animated picture for adults:
http://jalopnik.com/this-disturbing-theory-explains-pixars-cars-1791834045
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